amsgc
12-11 12:50 AM
In a testimony to the House Judiciary Committee back in Apr/May 08, the USCIS clearly stated that it had changed its policy regarding which applications would be adjudicated first.
As I remember, USCIS stated that it was now following a policy where cases that had a possibility of getting a visa number in the near future were adjudicated first. It said that this change in policy was made in order to reduce waste of immigrant visas.
The problem with this approach is that:
- It is not FIFO
- EB2-I/C and EB3 not only continue to remain retrogressed, but retrogression worsens.
Here is how:
Since EB2-I/EB3-I categories are already retrogressed, the I-485 applications in this category will be shelved until it appears that a visa number may become available in the foreseeable future.
So, USCIS puts most of these cases in cold storage while it adjudicates and approves the EB2ROW applications as it receives them on a continuous basis.
When time comes to roll over excess EB2 ROW numbers, two things happen:
- Already substantial use of EB2ROW numbers make few numbers available for roll over
- Limited adjudication of Eb2-I/C and EB3 cases make a very small pool of pre-adjudicated applications. USCIS requests DOS to move dates so that it has access to a larger pool for cherry picking.
The result is that VB dates move forward by leaps and bounds and cases are approved haphazardly with PDs all over the map. When the excess numbers are used up, the dates for EB2-I/C and EB3 retrogress back to previous cutoff dates because there are still a lot of old cases that have not even been brought out of cold storage. The EB2ROW dates are again current because USCIS has adjudicated and approved EB2ROW cases throughout the year- so no backlog there.
If USCIS followed FIFO, then the following would happen:
- USCIS would be adjudicating old EB2I/C and EB3 cases right now, and not the recently received EB2ROW cases.
- This would reduce the number of pre-adjudicated EB2ROW cases and hence lower the demand in the EB2ROW category.
- When time would come to roll over numbers not used by EB2ROW:
- A large pool number of excess visas would be available
- A large pool of pre-adjudicated EB2-I/C and EB3 cases with old PDs would be available that could be readily assigned visa numbers.
As a result, old cases would be assigned visa numbers and backlog would be reduced.
Unfortunately, USCIS has confused its process of adjudicating cases (which is FIFO) with its effort to enforce the country quota. The country limits come into picture only when cases ready for adjudication are to be assigned visa numbers. The process of adjudication should still be FIFO, and not determined by the country quota.
I wonder how it is they justify over 70K visas to EB2ROW, keeping it current all year, when EB2 I was so retrogressed and got only 15K. FIFO my foot. This is the most mismanaged, subjective thing I have ever seen. Translated for us, luck of the draw.
As I remember, USCIS stated that it was now following a policy where cases that had a possibility of getting a visa number in the near future were adjudicated first. It said that this change in policy was made in order to reduce waste of immigrant visas.
The problem with this approach is that:
- It is not FIFO
- EB2-I/C and EB3 not only continue to remain retrogressed, but retrogression worsens.
Here is how:
Since EB2-I/EB3-I categories are already retrogressed, the I-485 applications in this category will be shelved until it appears that a visa number may become available in the foreseeable future.
So, USCIS puts most of these cases in cold storage while it adjudicates and approves the EB2ROW applications as it receives them on a continuous basis.
When time comes to roll over excess EB2 ROW numbers, two things happen:
- Already substantial use of EB2ROW numbers make few numbers available for roll over
- Limited adjudication of Eb2-I/C and EB3 cases make a very small pool of pre-adjudicated applications. USCIS requests DOS to move dates so that it has access to a larger pool for cherry picking.
The result is that VB dates move forward by leaps and bounds and cases are approved haphazardly with PDs all over the map. When the excess numbers are used up, the dates for EB2-I/C and EB3 retrogress back to previous cutoff dates because there are still a lot of old cases that have not even been brought out of cold storage. The EB2ROW dates are again current because USCIS has adjudicated and approved EB2ROW cases throughout the year- so no backlog there.
If USCIS followed FIFO, then the following would happen:
- USCIS would be adjudicating old EB2I/C and EB3 cases right now, and not the recently received EB2ROW cases.
- This would reduce the number of pre-adjudicated EB2ROW cases and hence lower the demand in the EB2ROW category.
- When time would come to roll over numbers not used by EB2ROW:
- A large pool number of excess visas would be available
- A large pool of pre-adjudicated EB2-I/C and EB3 cases with old PDs would be available that could be readily assigned visa numbers.
As a result, old cases would be assigned visa numbers and backlog would be reduced.
Unfortunately, USCIS has confused its process of adjudicating cases (which is FIFO) with its effort to enforce the country quota. The country limits come into picture only when cases ready for adjudication are to be assigned visa numbers. The process of adjudication should still be FIFO, and not determined by the country quota.
I wonder how it is they justify over 70K visas to EB2ROW, keeping it current all year, when EB2 I was so retrogressed and got only 15K. FIFO my foot. This is the most mismanaged, subjective thing I have ever seen. Translated for us, luck of the draw.
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santb1975
02-14 12:22 AM
We really need it
I volunteer. I will be in Los Angeles this Sunday. See you there.
Cheers!
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I volunteer. I will be in Los Angeles this Sunday. See you there.
Cheers!
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piyu7444
04-01 10:07 AM
Thanks IVVM for your reply.
Anyone Else has any views/answers? Just want to have opinion of more people...........
Anyone Else has any views/answers? Just want to have opinion of more people...........
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perm2gc
02-09 11:40 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Breaking_news_Indian_docs_lose_case_against_Britis h_govt/articleshow/1586856.cms
Anybody thinking of trying a lawsuit in US should better think again. It's of NO USE. It will only aggravate the average Americans and you will lose whatever little support we have from moderates. Lawsuit will yeild nothing.
We must try Gandhian approach of appealing to their innate sense of justice.
Only President bush can do something if somehow he can be convinced.
People already sued USCIS couple of years back and lost the battle.Sad to hear about 15,000 people with their futures undecided.I also heard that many doctors are leaving US as they are unable to find a residency program.
Anybody thinking of trying a lawsuit in US should better think again. It's of NO USE. It will only aggravate the average Americans and you will lose whatever little support we have from moderates. Lawsuit will yeild nothing.
We must try Gandhian approach of appealing to their innate sense of justice.
Only President bush can do something if somehow he can be convinced.
People already sued USCIS couple of years back and lost the battle.Sad to hear about 15,000 people with their futures undecided.I also heard that many doctors are leaving US as they are unable to find a residency program.
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GCSOON-Ihope
11-06 12:31 PM
Totally agree with you. However, I have been complaining abt a similar company to my local INS office for over one year now (sending letters every other month) , but to no avail. Where do we complain?
It is more a matter related to Department of Labor than USCIS.
It is more a matter related to Department of Labor than USCIS.
baburob2
02-16 01:17 PM
Hi Logiclife
The 2004-2005 more usuage of EB visas for Indians is done because those were approved through AC21's unused visas i believe between 1999-2000 which are quota independent and not just from the annual quota of 140K. Hence in 2004-2005 there were more usuage. Starting from 2006 only thing left is the annual quota of 140K with per country quota of 7% at the max which has to be split among several EB categories in some proportions (roughly 1/3 among EB1, EB2, Eb3).The spillovers within 7% alone can be redistributed within a country's EB quota in the final quarter of the year. Hence the max India can get is 7% no matter how much gets spilled over from the rest of the world. THe only way to get the spillover back into the picture is another law enactment everytime it happens to get it back which is slow and painful process. Hence in nutshell to remove retrogression the easiest way is to remove country cap is or increase it . Else it is always going to stay even if annual quota is increased or through anyother measures. Hence I would recommend positively IV to focus on doing it and not mere increasing the quota.
The 2004-2005 more usuage of EB visas for Indians is done because those were approved through AC21's unused visas i believe between 1999-2000 which are quota independent and not just from the annual quota of 140K. Hence in 2004-2005 there were more usuage. Starting from 2006 only thing left is the annual quota of 140K with per country quota of 7% at the max which has to be split among several EB categories in some proportions (roughly 1/3 among EB1, EB2, Eb3).The spillovers within 7% alone can be redistributed within a country's EB quota in the final quarter of the year. Hence the max India can get is 7% no matter how much gets spilled over from the rest of the world. THe only way to get the spillover back into the picture is another law enactment everytime it happens to get it back which is slow and painful process. Hence in nutshell to remove retrogression the easiest way is to remove country cap is or increase it . Else it is always going to stay even if annual quota is increased or through anyother measures. Hence I would recommend positively IV to focus on doing it and not mere increasing the quota.
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add78
05-19 03:52 PM
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ryan
02-03 04:09 PM
That is correct. Mixing and matching with certifications doesn't work. Although I don't know about CPA, if it goes towards professional degree.
Hey there, I have a three year bachelor's (from Australia) and an American CPA. I believe the two can be evaluated to an Ameircan Master's equivalent. Please, check with your lawyers. It should be possible.
Hey there, I have a three year bachelor's (from Australia) and an American CPA. I believe the two can be evaluated to an Ameircan Master's equivalent. Please, check with your lawyers. It should be possible.
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dalishi
10-13 02:45 PM
Is it mandatory to wear business formal? I am going to get visa stamping with my wife, she is applying for H4.
Thanks!
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pappu
02-18 01:06 AM
Hello Varsha and NJ chapter members,
Thank you for taking the lead with the Meet the lawmaker initiative. It is very important for our EB community to be active and vibrant on the issues that are important to us. We cannot emphasize enough the importance of meeting the lawmaker in our home states. As you already know, in campaign like ours, it is the most vibrant communities who ultimately succeed.
The real question is when would there be sufficient number of community members who would feel the need and the motivation to be vibrantly active. It is the fence sitters that we have to convince so that more number of green card applicants, suffering due to retrogression, would feel the urge to actively participate in fixing their own issues. And your act of sharing your experiences with the community about what you were able to accomplish, is a big step in the right direction to motivate others to emulate what you have been able to do. In effect, today, you helped raise the level of consciousness of the community and prompted a sizeable number of members to think and believe that they could meet the lawmakers and make the difference in this debate. I am confident that most members, who listened to your narration tonight, were convinced that they could do it too. That is the message that we have to send out so that the energies emanating from our frustration due to delays with the system, which are often times visible on IV forums, could be channelized into positive direction. We see that there are many reasons why people do not actively participate in Immigration Voice efforts. A large part of these community members could be described in two broad categories:-
(1.) Green card applicants who are totally unaware of the current situation and thus they are indifferent towards the reasoning and the depth of the problem causing delays in the system. They think that their individual applications will get approved in "few months" so there is nothing they need to do.
(2.) The victims of the retrogression come from various parts of the world.
The members who belong to this group are already disheartened with the delay of their application and have waited patiently for their turn in the line for several years. This long period of wait has made this group of people to lose faith and so they do not believe in themselves. They don't actually think that they can make any difference in this debate to facilitate anything that would change the system. Because they do not believe in themselves, these people do not also believe that others like them can do anything to change the system either. So often times they refuse to participate, not knowing that they are refusing to participate in an effort that will ultimately facilitate the change in the system.
The positive message, like the one from you on the conference call today will help more and more members to believe that they can actively participate in changing the system to change their and their families' lives. And it is this belief in our own self that will ultimately wake-up this community. I am confident that after listening to your narration on today's call, more and more members will sincerely attempt to meet their lawmakers and will educate other members about their efforts. I believe that this community has a massive potential to make the change. The only question is when would the sizable number of IV members feel motivated enough to get up to actively participate in this process to facilitate the coming change? After today's call, I believe that the answer to this question is, very soon.
Again, Thank you for actively participating in the effort and more importantly, encouraging others to participate actively. Please continue to help and motivate other members in the organization.
Regards,
Pappu on behalf of IV team
Thank you for taking the lead with the Meet the lawmaker initiative. It is very important for our EB community to be active and vibrant on the issues that are important to us. We cannot emphasize enough the importance of meeting the lawmaker in our home states. As you already know, in campaign like ours, it is the most vibrant communities who ultimately succeed.
The real question is when would there be sufficient number of community members who would feel the need and the motivation to be vibrantly active. It is the fence sitters that we have to convince so that more number of green card applicants, suffering due to retrogression, would feel the urge to actively participate in fixing their own issues. And your act of sharing your experiences with the community about what you were able to accomplish, is a big step in the right direction to motivate others to emulate what you have been able to do. In effect, today, you helped raise the level of consciousness of the community and prompted a sizeable number of members to think and believe that they could meet the lawmakers and make the difference in this debate. I am confident that most members, who listened to your narration tonight, were convinced that they could do it too. That is the message that we have to send out so that the energies emanating from our frustration due to delays with the system, which are often times visible on IV forums, could be channelized into positive direction. We see that there are many reasons why people do not actively participate in Immigration Voice efforts. A large part of these community members could be described in two broad categories:-
(1.) Green card applicants who are totally unaware of the current situation and thus they are indifferent towards the reasoning and the depth of the problem causing delays in the system. They think that their individual applications will get approved in "few months" so there is nothing they need to do.
(2.) The victims of the retrogression come from various parts of the world.
The members who belong to this group are already disheartened with the delay of their application and have waited patiently for their turn in the line for several years. This long period of wait has made this group of people to lose faith and so they do not believe in themselves. They don't actually think that they can make any difference in this debate to facilitate anything that would change the system. Because they do not believe in themselves, these people do not also believe that others like them can do anything to change the system either. So often times they refuse to participate, not knowing that they are refusing to participate in an effort that will ultimately facilitate the change in the system.
The positive message, like the one from you on the conference call today will help more and more members to believe that they can actively participate in changing the system to change their and their families' lives. And it is this belief in our own self that will ultimately wake-up this community. I am confident that after listening to your narration on today's call, more and more members will sincerely attempt to meet their lawmakers and will educate other members about their efforts. I believe that this community has a massive potential to make the change. The only question is when would the sizable number of IV members feel motivated enough to get up to actively participate in this process to facilitate the coming change? After today's call, I believe that the answer to this question is, very soon.
Again, Thank you for actively participating in the effort and more importantly, encouraging others to participate actively. Please continue to help and motivate other members in the organization.
Regards,
Pappu on behalf of IV team
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NKR
06-04 05:02 PM
They might not send one to you if you request over the phone, this is for your own security since you keep hearing about cases where personal identity is stolen. If you have an online account, log in and send a request from there, they might send it to your email for a nominal fee though I am not sure. I got mine from Bank of America for 10$
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NKR
09-22 09:00 AM
Thats what GC means to me.
On the other hand...Its just the current state of mind...
You are asking 'What is GC, is it worth it?'. But you don't ask the same thing about other things...like 'What is Money, is it worth it?' !! 'What is family, is it worth it?'
But people do enter a state of mind, where other things become more important to them than what is important to you or me (like money, family....GC etc).
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Dude, Your PD is in early 2001 and you are so calm and composed?. I am amazed with your �current state of mind�. I hope you get your GC soon.
On the other hand...Its just the current state of mind...
You are asking 'What is GC, is it worth it?'. But you don't ask the same thing about other things...like 'What is Money, is it worth it?' !! 'What is family, is it worth it?'
But people do enter a state of mind, where other things become more important to them than what is important to you or me (like money, family....GC etc).
.
Dude, Your PD is in early 2001 and you are so calm and composed?. I am amazed with your �current state of mind�. I hope you get your GC soon.
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baba84
04-26 03:28 PM
what does your lawyer say about the matter?
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webm
04-02 04:42 PM
Could somebody please advice if contract work on W2 as a primary employment is ok?
Yes,unless you are on EAD..
Yes,unless you are on EAD..
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LondonTown
03-30 08:36 AM
Have you ever participated any of the IV's campaign on various issues. Have you ever volunteered your time or donated money.
If no, you deserve this and rot in hell. There is no solution and you people are running to IV only when disastor strikes. But its too late.
If you cannot get the original contract nothing can be done...
poorslumdog: Please try to be polite.
If no, you deserve this and rot in hell. There is no solution and you people are running to IV only when disastor strikes. But its too late.
If you cannot get the original contract nothing can be done...
poorslumdog: Please try to be polite.
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vinzak
01-07 12:10 PM
waitingwaiting, may you could change the subject of this thread to something like "Bill to move DV numbers to EB!!!". It'll probably get more attention.
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JunRN
09-17 10:10 AM
Once this bill passed the Committee, there are more work to do. We need to call again so that it will be put to vote at the Full House level and then, at the Senate.
I sent "Thank you!!!" flowers to Sen. Menendez for sponsoring the same bill in the Senate.
Let's call again today. Time is precious.
I sent "Thank you!!!" flowers to Sen. Menendez for sponsoring the same bill in the Senate.
Let's call again today. Time is precious.
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tabletpc
10-15 02:48 PM
Considering the lowered cost of stock I am planning to gets my hands dirty in stock. But I don't have much knwoeldge about it. Also, by the time I find resouces to learn more about stock, the prices might ahve gone up.
So can anyone provide good online tools to know more about investing on stocks and buying stocks online...
Thanks
So can anyone provide good online tools to know more about investing on stocks and buying stocks online...
Thanks
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sabr
09-18 04:44 PM
But if I get out of US and get back with H1b stamping will then I can start again with my current company as H1b while I wil work with EAD for another company full time?
kumjay
06-28 03:49 PM
It's 1947...Now we know not to listen to you :p
Yeh....1947. Sorry about that.....
Yeh....1947. Sorry about that.....
jonty_11
11-09 02:52 PM
Another important thing to note is that although GC is for a future employment oppportunity...you clearly state in Labor Application whether the employee is working with u currently....if u answer yes to that (which is the most common scenario) ...u have to provide the address of the location he works at...which shud be consistent with the Recruiting efforts undertaken (in that same area) by the employer......
So simple by saying that GC is for future employment, u cannot move around unless you clarify that in labor cert.
So simple by saying that GC is for future employment, u cannot move around unless you clarify that in labor cert.
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